How oh how can they call this straight?

[akron_tickler]

I've heard of people questioning whether a guy who is into tickling other non-naked guys is straight.

But what is going on in the scenes of this link?

http://www.straightfraternity.com/models/spin/index.html

LOL

What is the definition of straight anymore if THIS is somehow called straight?

If the "Straight Fraternity" had scenes of non-naked straight guys tickling the crap out of other non-naked straight guys, I could understand that.

But the stuff the three guys are doing in that link?

Come on, the site name should be changed, right?

(sorry, just realized this should be in Main Board Forum. Can the moderator please help?)

[akeel]

Didn't you know, akron, that when straight guys get together they strip down, have tickle fights, make out, and jerk each other off? Didn't anybody tell you that? It's life's biggest secret, but only we guys know this. Just don't tell the ladies ... they'll ruin it.

[wncMTNfoot]

I feel most of these guys are straight to some bi-sexual.

If a pornographer come up to me and said he would pay 1to3 grand for me to do a 15 min. scene with a chick and then get off on her, I would have to hold my breath and dive in it.

Heck, I need the money as bad as these str8 boys do!

[dc777]

Aren't most guys involved in gay porn straight? Gay porn pays A LOT more than straight porn.

[tenchichan]

The whole straight thing is just a part of the fantasy that the site is trying to portray. Asking it to change its name is like asking Star Wars to change its name because there's no such thing as wizards in space.

[vegasguy]

Aren't most guys involved in gay porn straight? Gay porn pays A LOT more than straight porn.

I think they are actually gay guys portraying themselves as straight. I know a lot of straight guys, and they wouldn't suck a dick or give another guy a hand joy for no amount of money, no matter who down on their luck they are.

[vegasguy]

that was supposed to be 'how', not who.

[somecanuck]

I think most straight guys wouldn't, but I know for sure there are straight guys who would do it for money. Whether these guys are actually straight or not I do not know. Definitely bi or gay, possibly straight. It doesn't matter to me.

[ropedfeet]

These guys probably are gay or bi ... And I agree, its the whole "straight guy" fantasy thing going on here. There are lots of gay men out there who put some higher "hot" factor to straight guys, for reasons I don't understand. But there is a market for it.

They are handsome whoever/whatever they are though LOL!!

By the way, I Loved akeel's response! LMAO

[jonk]

I remember reading an interview once with a straight porn actor who appeared in many gay porn films, as well. He had been approached because he was drop-dead gorgeous. He had to really think about it, but was being offered something like $5,000 so he agreed. His film did so well he kept making more and his price per film got to be something like $15,000. They had to bring in a female 'fluffer' to keep him hard between takes. He was only in his mid-20s.

I think it's not that much of a stretch for guys who do straight porn to consider and do gay porn, especially when the money is that lucrative. The average gay consumer is watching it because it turns them on. These actors are doing it because it's a job.

[ftslave67]

plus, they need to do a little learning on the Greek alphabet!

[Franz]

I could catch a lot of flak for saying the following, but, what the heck! In actuality, as I learned by experience a long time back, when it comes to what a male with do and willingly participate in sexually with another male is a whole lot--if he can find himself alone with another guy whom he knows genuinely likes him and whom he trusts--and who is willing to show him what and how to do it. I personally think the whole straight vs. gay dichotomy is a false one, dreamed up by Modernist so-called psychologists and others so they could categorize things in the "scientific way". My two cents worth on this.

[Franz]

To continue a bit, I would say that 9 out of 10 of my many male lovers during my life to date were guys who consciously had thought of themselves and behaviorally had always acted like a hetero when it came to sex--until they met and got to know me. (At least half of all of them were married with children, for example.) When I've become a friend to a guy like that and when he really turns me on and I want him and am willing to act on it, in 90% of instances I've been able to gain the guy's willing cooperation with me--and they all individually enjoy the hell out of themselves doing it & will do it again. I have never been a man who uses hard, fast labels on any guy. I just take it as it comes and enjoy the other guy, and he enjoys sex with me. And BTW, I have never sought sex with any effeminate or girly guys (they do nothing for me). Draw your own conclusion.

[Franz]

So, bottom line in my view and experience, the 3 men in the porn tape should be viewed as being what they manifestly all are--as men. They are neither inherently or exclusively "straight" or "gay", a false dichotomy in my view. They are men--that's it. Whether they did for this tape what they did because they felt horny and enjoy sexual pleasure with another guy or because they were paid handsomely to do it is really in this sense beside the point. They are all three men, and men "can f**k it flat or straight", so to speak.